Bevara eller förnya?

Läste Torbjörn Lindahls blogg idag, han hade besökt ett av väckelsens bönhus och funderat över det poisitiva med konservatism i kristendomen. Det fick mig att börja skriva.
 
Visst är det bra att bevara det gamla, men det beror på hur gammalt det gamla är. Ta t.ex. psalmboken, för 75 år sedan ansågs 1937 års psalmbok inte okay bland alla i väckelsen. Idag duger den. Många andra traditioner kan tyckas gamla, men börjar man syna dem så uppnår de inte ens ett halvt sekel. Ett annat exempel är det som kallas söndagsbön. Det berättas att väckelsen försökte med hjälp av dåtidens (mer än hundra år sedan) kykoherdar att efterlikna gudstjänsterna i hemmen/bönhusen på söndagarna kl 11, med kyrkans gudstjänster. Numera vill man inte vara så konservativ på alla ställen. En modernare enklare variant är mera fromt.
 
Som kristen borde man inte bevara eller förkasta traditioner bara för att de är traditioner, utan vi kan väl sortera dem i ljuset av Guds ord. "pröva allt och behåll det som är gott" (1.Tess.5:21). Ibland får man höra att:
 
....."förr i tiden tog man inga förhastade beslut om vad man skulle göra med eller säga om olika saker. De gamla satte sig ner och djupstuderade bibeln innan de tog ställning. Fanns det Guds ord som visade hur man skulle göra, så följde man det. Fanns det inget Guds ord i frågan, så hittade man inte på egna regler.".....
 
Den seden borde skrivas in i alla fridsförbunds och övriga kristna församlingars stadgar.

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Postat av: Jan Andersson

Guds Frid Håkan!
Jag har stor behållning av att läsa din blogg och ser alltid fram emot dina inlägg! Fortsätt så ;-)

En fråga om det du nu skriver att "så hittade man inte på egna regler": Om man nu inte hittade på egna regler då Bibeln inte hade något att säga om företeelsen i fråga vad gjorde man då? För det finns väl åtminstone tre alternativ, Bibeln säger att något är synd/fel, att det är ok/bra eller säger ingenting om saken ifråga.

2013-09-30 @ 06:31:02
Postat av: Marguerite

Jag håller fullständigt med dig,Håkan!!!
I Bibeln finner vi svar i livets alla förhållanden och när man betänker att ingen ens hade lov att dela ut mat,utan att vara fylld med Den Helige Ande på Apostlarnas tid,är det märkligt att det tas så lätt på saker och ting i dag...
Fridshälsningar från Marguerite!!!

2013-09-30 @ 14:16:11
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Postat av: Håkan Kero

Med tanke på att de gamla hade begåvats med andlig visdom, vilken fått näring av flera anledningar till bibliska djupstudier, så undvek man att orsaka splittringar med egna påhitt.

Nyligen fick jag höra ett gott råd; Om någon av olika skäl vill leva ett asketiskt liv(undvika moderniteter så långt som möjligt), ska han eller hon inte tvinga andra kristna att leva likadant. Men om det känns bra att leva så, kan man fortsätta, dock utan att se ner på andra.

Till frågan om tre alternativ, kan jag svara att om Gud hade ansett ett behov av elva bud, så hade Han bett Mose skriva elva bud. Vi människor behöver inte bättra på det Gud gjort.

2013-09-30 @ 19:33:54
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Postat av: Tobbe

Men när jag var med dig på söndagsbön i din hemby för en dryg månad sedan så fick jag konservatism så det räckte och blev över. Nog har jag länge vetat att man i Sattajärvi följer "gamla ordningen" vid söndagsbön. Men jag har alltid trott det var högmässoritualet från 1942, men icke. Här hamnade vi lätt långt bak i 1800-talet.

Svar: Min far Henry skrev underlaget för vår gudstjänstordning. Det är tolv år sedan han dog och ingen har ändrat det än så länge.
Håkan Kero

2013-10-01 @ 08:53:13
Postat av: André Bergström

Det vore på sin plats att Tobbe utvecklar sitt resonemang gällande sin kritik till Sattajärvi om att vara konservatism. Tobbe får gärna definiera vad han menar, så att det blir begripligt, tex vad är konservativt och vem förespråkar detta etc.

2013-10-01 @ 15:46:39
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Postat av: Marguerite

Jag förstår inte riktigt vad du menar?
Bevara-förnya-leva asketiskt liv-tvinga andra???

Det är väl Ordet som är våra fötters lykta och ljuset på vår stig och det gamla evangeliet är lika nytt idag!!!

Svar: Det jag skriver om är bevara eller förnya gudstjänstordning eller psalmboken plus andra saker som inte direkt har med bibelns innehåll att göra.
Håkan Kero

2013-10-03 @ 07:15:06
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Postat av: Marguerite

Då måste jag replikera med att Gudstjänstordningen i allra högsta grad har med Bibelns innehåll att göra eftersom där står hur den ska gå till...
Önskar dig en fin och Välsignad dag!

Svar: Gudstjänstordningar förändras då och då men bibelns ord förändras aldrig från Guds sida.
Håkan Kero

2013-10-03 @ 10:58:23
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Postat av: André Bergström

Jag citerar Håkan Kero:
"Den seden borde skrivas in i alla fridsförbunds och övriga kristna församlingars stadgar."

– Till detta skulle jag vilja svara, att det finns en fara med att resonera på detta vis. Nämligen att det finns en risk att det blir en toppstyrd sekt och ett sådant fridsförbund vill jag inte ha. Ett koncept som jag däremot tror på i denna sak, är det LFF står för, nämligen följande:
"LFF är ingen egentlig takorganisation eftersom medlemsföreningarna är självständiga och själva besluter om sina egna angelägenheter"
Se sammantaget på länken:
http://www.lff.fi/web/guest/lff

– Jag kan tillägga att tror och litar man på den helige Ande, (som bibeln återger) så vägleder han t.ex. alla fridsförbund. Således behövs inga stadgar från någon som vill styra osv.

Svar: André, Det är just sekterism som frodas då man hittar på egna regler då man inte hittar direkta bibelord för eller mot det ena eller det andra. En sekt inför oskrivna regler för att hålla koll på församlingsmedlemmarna ifall de är inne i eller på väg ut.
När man i en sekt inte har bibelord på reglerna, brukar man hänvisa till "den helige Ande" som har uppenbarat för ledarna vad som är rätt och fel. Därmed kan man toppstyra.
Givetvis ska alla enskilda församlingar/fridsförbund vara självständiga. Det enda undantaget är praktiska saker då man ordnar stormöten med gemensamma tält och övrig utrustning.
Om det finns en fara att resonera kring olika frågor i Guds ords ljus, då blir jag orolig.
Håkan Kero

2013-10-04 @ 20:33:16
Postat av: André Bergström

Håkan,
Det enda jag avsåg, var att ingen annan "överhet" skall bestämma över andra fridsförbunden. Jag menade bara att varje fridsförbund skall själva besluta och bestämma om sina egna angelägenheter, utan att någon annan "överhet" skall styra.

Svar: Så ska det vara.
Håkan Kero

2013-10-05 @ 10:54:07
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